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Possible Junk Fax Defense Arguments
Here are the defenses fax.com and the others may try. None will work.
The defense that Katz used in an interview show his ignorance of case law. He cites no cases to support his
statements.
We think this is totally legal. We'll prove it in court.
Gee, if you think it is so legal, then why do you go to such great lengths to
hide you identity with 23 different 800 numbers, no identification of your
company when you call the 800 number, no caller ID on your faxes (calls are done
using *67), and no
identification of your company on the faxes. Also explain why you don't comply
with 47 USC 227(d)(1)(B) which requires you identify in the header the phone
number of the calling machine or the business.
If you try to file, I'll just create a forged "call sheet" and
show the judge that you called to have your number added. I fabricate evidence
all the time. So it will be my word
against yours. No preponderance of the evidence since you can't prove that you
didn't call me from some number. Good luck trying to prove I forged the
"call sheet."
I have to have given explicit permission or invitation to the sender of the fax which has
been interpreted as the original business since when the law was written, fax
blasters were never considered and essentially the fax blaster is simply an
agent for the advertiser. The FCC has concurred in this in their
clarifications. Good luck in establishing that in a judges mind that I called in
on all of these business and invited them to send me a fax. As for my class
actions against your clients, make sure your phone records match up. And make
sure the callers do too. You need a permission slip for each of your 22 million
fax numbers at a minimum saying they invited faxes from all comers. We will
verify with statistical sampling, I think you're pretty much hosed.
Also, you should come up with a credible explanation to the judge for why all
the secrecy and subterfuge as listed in the previous paragraph. After all, if
all these folks you fax have given explicit permission, why all the secrecy and
illegal non-compliance with the technical standards?
I don't need call sheets for all these numbers. After I've war dialed and
found a fax machine, I sent them a permission letter via
fax. If they don't
respond, I interpret a non-response as consent.
The FCC has
also clearly ruled that such "permission letters" that are sent by fax
violate the law. So we'll
assess you for 22 million permission letters and we're done there. Lastly, interpreting a
non-response as permission is a bit of stretch, don't you think? Do you think,
for example, if I send you a demand letter for $1M that I can go to a judge and
enforce it because you never responded to my ridiculous request? Finally, the
description in the permission fax is deceptive since it makes it looks like
fax.com is a charity doing commercial ads to pay for the missing children faxes.
It also promises to send no more than one fax per week and requires you to call
the 800 number to opt out. Lastly, www.publicservice.org,
has nothing at all to do with finding missing children.
I'm just the FAX blasting service; you can't go after me. You must go
after the client.
The Hooters and Dallas Cowboys cases show this not to be the case. It was
made quite clear in Texas
v. American Blastfax, Inc. And the
FCC makes this quite clear that the "sender" applies to both the
client and the fax service, especially if the fax service knows what is going
on. The FCC pointed this out to fax.com and Kevin Katz a year ago in this
citation, where they wrote:
Although entities that merely transmit facsimile messages on behalf of others
are not liable for compliance with the prohibition on faxing unsolicited
advertisements,7 the exemption from liability does not exist when a fax
transmitter has ``'a high degree of involvement or actual notice of an illegal
use and [has] fail[ed] to take steps to prevent such transmissions.'''8
Accordingly, fax transmitters do not enjoy an absolute exemption from liability
under the TCPA and the Commission's Rules.
California law allows unsolicited faxing without penalty
Not at all for two reasons. First of all, the TCPA is quite clear that
states can create laws that are more restrictive, not less restrictive.
Secondly, the
wrapper on the California law clearly indicates the intent was to make the
law more restrictive than federal law. And finally, there is nothing in the California
law that says that unsolicited faxes can be sent without penalty, or any
such statement to override federal law. Since the California law was amended in
1998, if they had attempted to pre-empt federal law, there would have been a
statement to that effect. There is none. See also Texas
v. American Blastfax, Inc. Blastfax also argued that the TCPA claims should
be dismissed because it complied with state law requirements regarding fax
advertisements. See Tex. Bus. & Com. Code ß 35.47. The court held, however,
that compliance with state law did not preclude a violation of the federal law.
It also held that a more restrictive state law concerning unsolicited fax
advertisements did not preempt the TCPA. Somehow, fax.com got Tripi's case in
Southern California dismissed (failed to get class certification) because the
judge thought that the law allowed faxes unless you "opt out." Judges make
mistake all the time.
Doug McKenna [JunkFAX-L] wrote: "The District Court in my successful
appeal last summer held the same thing, quoting directly from the Texas v. ABF
case. The judge also held that any interpretation of Colorado's state law (which
prohibits the absence of a toll-free remove number on a junk fax) as allowing
junk faxes within the state would be preempted by the TCPA's absolute
prohibition on them."
Note: A reader recently reported that the
California Business & Professions code §17538.4 was amended as of Jan. 1, 2003
to remove the reference to faxes entirely. Thus there is no longer any argument
to be made that California law preempts the Federal law because there is no
California law on the subject (to the reader's knowledge).
California law takes precedence here since it is intrastate and California
does not impose a penalty for unsolicited faxes
No sorry again. The feds have the exclusive right to regulate
telecommunications. See Texas
v. American Blastfax, Inc. There is no carve out in the federal TCPA law that exempts
intrastate faxes.
Federal law (TCPA) can't regulate this because it is intrastate commerce
See
Texas
v. American Blastfax, Inc. Blastfax
initially argued that the TCPA did not apply to intrastate faxes because
Congress had the power to regulate only interstate commerce. The court held,
however, that Congress can regulate intrastate faxes because telephones and
telephone lines are part of an aggregate interstate system and thus were
instrumentalities of interstate commerce. Moreover, the TCPA did not limit its
application to interstate faxes and the Communications Act exempted the TCPA
from its interstate-only restriction. See 47 U.S.C. ß 152(b).
Of course the federal law (TCPA) applies. And it applies even wholly inside
any one state, as the District Court in my neck of the woods (Colorado) recently
held.
--- Doug McKenna
Publishing a fax number somewhere implies consent unless otherwise revoked
Not true as clearly pointed out in every citation letter that the FCC sends
out, e.g., FCC
citation of 21st Century Faxes which says, "The mere distribution or
publication of a telephone facsimile number does not confer invitation or
permission to transmit advertisements to a particular telephone facsimile
machine." See TCPA Memorandum Opinion and Order, 10 FCC Rcd 12391,
12408 for details. See also the FCC
page on the TCPA.
TCPA is unconstitutional because it violates freedom of speech
TCPA has been upheld to be constitutional. See the "TCPA Has Been Held
Constitutional" section in Hearing Witness Alan Charles Raul Spamming The E-Mail You Want To Can
for various citations. They include: Destination Ventures, Ltd. v. FCC, 46
F.3d 54, (9th Cir. 1995), and Moser v. FCC, 46 F.3d 970 (9th Cir.
1995), cert. denied, 515 U.S. 1161. See also Kenro, Inc.
v. Fax Daily, Inc., 962 F. Supp. 1162 (S.D. Indiana 1997). Here and there
there will be judges who improperly interpret the law (like Rush Limbaugh's
cousin did in Missouri) and rule the TCPA unconstitutional. But these cases are
always in a lower court and will not apply to your case. Experienced judges know
better.
It's the wrong venue; you have to sue me in federal court
No, 47
U.S.C. § 227(b)(3) clearly says that you must bring your action in state
court. See also Federal
Court Jurisdiction over Private TCPA Claims: Why the Federal Courts of Appeals
Got It Right by Kevin N. Tharp.
You can't bring a class action because each FAX is a separate event
This argument has never worked on any of these cases, although has
worked in federal court. That's like arguing that each time they overbill
your credit card, it's a separate event. See Linder v. Thrifty Oil.
You can't bring a class action because the amount of harm is minimal for
each Plantiff
This one won't fly here. The penalty was imposed by statute to act as a
deterrent. And clearly, it wasn't enough since it didn't deter fax.com from
entering the business and staying in business. Furthermore, even the class
actions that have been filed haven't deterred them. So if the court doesn't
certify the class, what's the point of the law in the first place? They tried
this argument in Texas
v. American Blastfax, Inc and it failed. It especially is a non-starter in
California due to Linder v. Thrifty Oil.
However, it
did work (temporarily) in Arizona, but the court of appeals reversed the
trial court so you are out of luck.
You can't bring a class action because the situation of each plaintiff is
totally different.
Not really. All plantiffs had absolutely no business relationship with the
faxers. That's all the counts under the law. This argument was
tried in Texas, and has
worked in federal court, but not in California state court.
The burden of proof is on you to prove that all these faxes were sent to
people who didn't solicit them
That will be extremely easy to establish using random statistical samples
and affadavits from the owners of those fax machines. Combined with the lack of
evidence presented by the Defendants on how and with whom the relationships were
established and the blatant advertising on their website, and the absence
of a credible explanation for how they could possibly grow their list so fast,
it will present a strong case. In a civil suit, all you need is preponderance of
the evidence, and we have it in spades here. Fax.com has nothing.
We got your FAX number somehow; maybe you are trying to scam us by deliberately
entering your number into our system.
I've got no motive to do that. The burden of proof is on the clients of
fax.com. Produce your phone records showing I called your "add my
number" number. And you better have a very convincing story to tell the
judge on how I can possibly have a business relationship with Bagoba, Tower
Group, and your other clients.
We FAX out "Missing Children" faxes. That's not illegal.
Correct. These faxes are not part of the suit. Only faxes sent for
commercial purposes are.
You can't identify the harmed class and prove that each received an
unsolicited FAX
It's quite easy to do. In fact, statistically, we can show it beyond any
reasonable doubt. But we just have to prove preponderance of the evidence.
That's easy through statistical sampling and affadavits and the lack of a
credible story on the client's side.
If you bankrupt me, I'll just start up a new business again.
We'll try to pierce the corporate veil on this go around. If we can't, we'll
for sure be able to do it if you try restarting the business under a new name.
You only get to declare personal bankruptcy once every seven years. We'll also
look into enjoining you from getting back in the business.
You can't touch me for illegal headers. Only the state AG can get me for
that.
Court in missouri: held that header being illegal is actionable under
private right of action under regulations thereunder
You can't get an injunction to stop me. You'd have to prove balance of
hardships and preponderance of the evidence.
The latter is easy. Balance of hardships is weighed for their hardship vs.
hardship of recipient of each fax that is sent. So if they don't send a fax
their revenue is harmed by 7 cents. But if I do receive a fax that is wrong, I'm
harmed $500 by statute. We should seek an injunction to stop to anyone without a prior business
relationship similar to state of Washington has proven to work. The problem with
the previous balance of hardship argument is that it works for me only and an
injunction to get them to stop it for me isn't very interesting. So a
better way to argue the balance of hardships criteria is to argue that it does
not apply since they are breaking the law.
You can't get me. I'm 21st Century and I'll prove I sent those faxes from
outside the USA.
Think again and read this recent
forfeiture letter against 21st Century from the FCC that said:
Accordingly, we conclude that the TCPA prohibits the faxing of unsolicited
advertisements either to or from the United States by any entity that is
located ``within the United States.'' Moreover, the term ``person'' in Section
227(b)(1) includes the individual who actually performs the faxing as well as
the corporate entity on whose behalf he or she is acting.16
and ruled that 21st Century has sufficient US presence to qualify as
"being within the US."
I bought my fax list from Info USA and they told me that everyone on the
list had consented to receive faxes.
I'd test that if I were you. Fax a couple of people on the list and test the
assumption. I'd bet that most people on their list haven't given them a blanket
invitation to fax anything to them. The FCC has ruled that you (the advertiser) are the "sender," not
Info USA or fax.com (fax broadcasters didn't exist when they wrote the law). You don't establish an
invitation to fax the receiver just by
purchasing a list. In essence, buying a list of fax numbers for use in
commercial unsolicited advertising is, in the vast majority of cases, a total
waste of money. The only exceptions are where everyone on it has already
consented to receive faxes from anyone or you want to use it for charitable, non-commercial purposes like
Missing Children, where there is no commercial value. As far as violations,
Section 227(b)(1) includes the individual who actually performs the faxing as
well as the corporate entity on whose behalf he or she is acting.
In short, "buying an opt-in list" is a contradiction in terms be it
fax or spam. Lots of good specific opt-in/permission info at tcpalaw.com. In
Colorado, it is illegal to sell a consumer's fax number without that consumer's
permission. See Colorado Revised Statutes 6-1-702.
Hey, we're fax.com. We just send out the faxes on behalf of clients. You
can't get us because we're exempt because we're a common carrier.
Nope. fax.com knows what is going over their lines, they know what they are
doing is illegal, and fax.com is supplying the fax numbers (and collecting new
ones). Common carriers don't supply dialing lists, they don't initiate calls,
and they don't enter into specific advertising campaigns for clients, and they
don't require you to turn back in your fax numbers to them that you discovered
from war dialing software they supplied to you. And finally, even if
fax.com was found to be a common carrier (which is a big stretch), we can still
hold them liable since they have significant involvement and actual notice of
the illegal activities of their clients.
I didn't know it was illegal. fax.com told me it was legal! You have to
prove I knew it was illegal to get treble damages.
This is somewhat of a moot, finer point since even at $500 per fax, you'll be
bankrupt in any class action. The person doing the execution for you knew this
was against the law. Maybe you can sue them for not telling you. So since
someone in the sender chain knew, treble damages apply.
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Background
Information About Junk Spam Faxes.
The TCPA and Federal Communications
Commission (FCC) rules generally prohibit most
unsolicited junk facsimile (fax spam)
advertisements. The TCPA states that an
advertiser cannot send you unsolicited fax
advertisements unless you have given the
advertiser your prior express consent to receive
fax advertisements or you have an established
business relationship (EBR). Even if the
advertiser has received your prior express
consent or has EBR, they are also required to
allow you to ?opt out? of receiving their
junk fax advertisements. The Junk Fax Prevention
Act of 2005, directed the FCC to amend its rules
adopted pursuant to the TCPA regarding fax
advertising. The FCC?s revised rules:
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Require the
sender of fax advertisements to provide
specific information on the fax that
allows recipients to ?opt-out? of any
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Specify the circumstances under
which a request to ?opt-out? complies
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